Strip 695

22nd Sep 2018, 12:00 AM in Cave of No Return
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Snowtwo 22nd Sep 2018, 1:32 AM edit delete reply


Another solution would have been to do something like, say, cast light on an arrow then get it lodged in the dragons hide. Then you'd literally have him all lit up for you to shoot since you'd know where at least one spot is.
kgy121 22nd Sep 2018, 3:30 AM edit delete reply


Knowing where things are is what gives you the fifty percent chance to hit. Invisibility is a great spell. You can also stack it with other miss chance spells like Mirror Image, Blink, or Entropic Shield, and all of them are rolled separately. A decent wizard bypasses AC altogether by having a .5*.8*.8 chance for even a natural 20 to hit.

And then if it does hit, there's a good chance it was a mirror image to begin with.
zophah 24th Sep 2018, 12:33 PM edit delete reply


I know in D&D 3.5, spells like Blink were considered 'concealment miss chance' and therefore didn't stack with invisibility (which grants full concealment). Coincidentally, Entropic Ward's miss chance does not say it's concealment...
Halosty45 22nd Sep 2018, 11:11 AM edit delete reply
Halosty45
Too bad dragons cast spells like sorcerers so he can just cast invisibility again, and again.
Unless he has something better to do with his actions, of course.
fellow 22nd Sep 2018, 2:10 PM edit delete reply
fellow
If it gets the dragon to use up one turn it's a good use of a spell.
Snowtwo 23rd Sep 2018, 5:28 AM edit delete reply


Yea. The Dragon's far stronger, but the party has the action economy. One of their actions is worth far less than one of his. In hindsight if this dragon was smart he would have probably kicked off the battle just... smashing... three or so people. If he killed or disabled even one the AE would be slightly more in his favor.
Halosty45 23rd Sep 2018, 6:25 PM edit delete reply
Halosty45
If he was smart he would have probably killed most of them in a single breath attack by coming in invisible. That said, killing multiple parties on the surprise round isn't very... sporting.
Snowtwo 24th Sep 2018, 2:52 AM edit delete reply


If any GM did that (dropping an invisible dragon on a low/mid level party and killing them all in the surprise round) I'd say that the party would be in their rights to cram the GM's dice where the sun don't shine.
fellow 24th Sep 2018, 11:28 AM edit delete reply
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Yeah, the gm already had to get the encounter past the other gms. Killing people before they even saw the dragon would've resulted in a hard no.
Halosty45 24th Sep 2018, 12:15 PM edit delete reply
Halosty45
They might even call it "Total BS"... but I don't think that GM was among the current group? He was off somewhere else :P
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